Scott M. Stolz

2025-04-25 05:57:17

scott@loves.tech

It seems like a lot of people have forgotten the lessons taught in Star Wars. No matter how good your intentions are, going over to the dark side will just corrupt you and taint any cause you support.

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2025-04-25 07:01:37

Marshall Sutherland

dwatney@hub.farthinghalearms.com

If only people could agree on what counts as the dark side.

2025-04-25 13:17:24

Scott M. Stolz

scott@loves.tech

@Marshall Sutherland

If only people could agree on what counts as the dark side.

I think it is one of those things where most people can see it in others, but rarely see it in themselves.

They can point out when their enemies have crossed into the dark side, but then justify their own bad behavior as justice, or as pay back, or that they "deserve it" somehow.

It is a blind spot many people have. They cannot see how they are the same as the people they hate; the opposite side of the same coin.

2025-04-25 16:38:39

FenTiger

fentiger@zotum.net

@Scott M. Stolz "But it's different when we do it!"

"Different how?"

"You know what I mean!"

I wonder if some of the disagreement over quote posts may have been rooted in this; we should be able to quote post them, but we don't want them quote posting us...

2025-04-25 17:06:15

Scott M. Stolz

scott@loves.tech

@FenTiger Humans are weird in the sense that we can hold double standards.

And we often give ourselves a personal exemption from the rules.

It seems to be human nature since it is so widespread.

2025-04-25 17:31:46

Frank Casa

frank@frank.casa

@FenTiger

I wonder if some of the disagreement over quote posts may have been rooted in this; we should be able to quote post them, but we don't want them quote posting us...

There are some people who don't want anyone to be quoted, but I think at least some of the people are avoiding accountability. They say whatever they want, and if there is a backlash, they delete their post as if nothing happened. They don't want to be quoted since they don't want to be held accountable for their own words and actions.

But, on the flip side, you do have a problem with dogpiling and personal attacks. So there are valid reasons why some people don't want to be quoted, especially if it is something political that may not be popular. After all, just because something is popular, that does not make it right. Whether you are right or not does not affect whether you get attacked or not, in many cases.

2025-04-26 00:10:53

Scott M. Stolz

scott@loves.tech

@BauerUlli I can answer that. A quote post (or what we call a share) is someone else's post with your comments. But quoting someone with blockquotes also counts as quoting. Hubzilla and forum software like NodeBB have quoting built in and it is culturally accepted, whereas Mastodon and some other platforms don't even allow their users to use blockquotes, much less quoting someone's entire post. Mastodon is adding quote posts, but there is some controversy around it, since not everyone on Mastodon wants it.

2025-04-26 09:24:04

Marshall Sutherland

dwatney@hub.farthinghalearms.com

It all sounds rather silly since I can literally use copy and paste to say:

Jupiter says "As for quotes, these people don't even now that quotes are possible in social media."

2025-04-26 13:28:48

Bill Statler

billstatler@forum.statler.ws

Take a look at the feed of popular posts on any large Mastodon instance, and see how many of them are a screenshot of somebody else's post.

2025-04-27 09:16:05

Scott M. Stolz

scott@loves.tech

@Jupiter Rowland That is a factor, but even if we had a native mobile app, we would still have more feature, just like the Facebook app has more features than the Twitter/X and Mastodon apps. Part of it is because Mastodon is modelled after Twitter, and Twitter never was feature-rich.