about a year ago
jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu
Got nice pictures, but inclusivity makes it too tedious for me to post them and for you to enjoy them; CW: long post (795 characters)
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12 months ago
scott@loves.tech
When I mentioned AI, I did not mean that it should write descriptions. It is pretty good at detecting objects in pictures though and can hide images that might contain certain items. It knows what a face is, what an eye is, what nudity is, what meat is, etc. And an AI can be trained to detect specific things.

It won't be perfect, but for someone triggered by eye contract, it could look for faces & eyes, and hide pictures with eyes in them. It might not detect an eye 1 pixel in size but most humans wouldn't even notice that. And if someone is so sensitive that they are triggered by a 1 pixel eye on a 4 pixel face, then ALL images should be shut off for them, because any image with a living being in it could have an eye in it. There might be an animal hiding in the bushes of that picture that you thought had no animals in it.

You still need humans to write meaningful descriptions, but an AI can certainly hide images if it detects an eye in the image.

As far as long descriptions go, it depends on the context and your audience. Since you like writing long detailed descriptions and posts, people who like that are more likely to follow you. And people, including blind people, who want short and sweet will just unfollow you or scroll past, since you write a book describing your photos.

It's not right or wrong. People have different preferences. So, ultimately it comes down to what you want to create, and what your audience wants.

And as far as what platform people choose, it's like a blind person picking up a printed newspaper. Not the best option. They should get a braille version of the newspaper, an online version that could be read to them by screen-reading software, or have one of those handheld scanners that can read the text to them. Because if they can't see, that printed newspaper by itself is not going to be readable by them without assistance.

While we should not ignore than people will use less-than-ideal platforms, we should still work on developing technologies that help people with disabilities.
12 months ago
jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu
@Scott M. Stolz
It might not detect an eye 1 pixel in size but most humans wouldn't even notice that. And if someone is so sensitive that they are triggered by a 1 pixel eye on a 4 pixel face, then ALL images should be shut off for them, because any image with a living being in it could have an eye in it.

As I've said, I've got written confirmation that some autistic people are triggered by eye contact from a vertical stack of 4 pixels that shows a person. As in, the whole face is less than a quarter of a pixel. It can still trigger them.

There might be an animal hiding in the bushes of that picture that you thought had no animals in it.

As long as that animal is sufficiently covered up that it's invisible, it doesn't require a content warning.

As far as long descriptions go, it depends on the context and your audience. Since you like writing long detailed descriptions and posts, people who like that are more likely to follow you. And people, including blind people, who want short and sweet will just unfollow you or scroll past, since you write a book describing your photos.

It's not right or wrong. People have different preferences. So, ultimately it comes down to what you want to create, and what your audience wants.

My audience is kind of blurry. It actually is everyone out there who comes across one of my posts, be it as a follower, be it as someone who finds one of my posts in their federated timeline. After all, I think I got most of my new followers over the last half year through federated timelines.
12 months ago
scott@loves.tech
@Jupiter Rowland
As long as that animal is sufficiently covered up that it's invisible, it doesn't require a content warning.

My point is that an animal in the bushes may not be noticed by the person sharing the picture, and even if they wanted to issue a content warning, they wouldn't because they didn't even notice the animal staring at the camera between the leaves in the photo.

@Jupiter Rowland
My audience is kind of blurry. It actually is everyone out there who comes across one of my posts, be it as a follower, be it as someone who finds one of my posts in their federated timeline. After all, I think I got most of my new followers over the last half year through federated timelines.

You can't please everyone. I know someone who gets triggered when you include a trigger warning. I suspect they are autistic, but they would never admit it. They sure do cuss a lot and their blood pressure raises when they see a trigger warning. I don't understand why they get so upset at trigger warnings, but they do. I just told them not to use Mastodon and not follow people who used trigger warnings. It helped, but sometimes a trigger warning slips through.

But instead of indulging them, we are helping to rehabilitate them so they don't associate negative feelings and thoughts to trigger warnings. Because that is what is happening in the brain: an association between something and an emotion, and the emotion is triggered by whatever item they have the association with.

In one person, eye contact is associated with fear. In another person, trigger warnings are associated with anger. In another person, a particular song is associated with suicide and death. They get depressed when they hear it.

It's the same process. And the more you repeat this pattern, the stronger it gets, until you get to a point where it is almost impossible to break. Breaking these patterns is not an overnight process, but unless you want the person to dependent on others for the rest of their lives, it's better for them to break these unhealthy thought patterns, preferably under the supervision of a professional. And for an autistic person, the process seems to be harder, since they are faster to latch onto thought patterns and are more resistant to change. But in a way, that is the same with some very stubborn older people. Their brain might not be as flexible as others, making it harder for them to cope with real life. So a professional who is experienced with autism or stubborn older patients or other similar brain issues would be ideal.

So, we do want to be accommodating and don't want to upset people, but at the same time, we should not encourage a path that is unhealthy for them. It's a hard situation to deal with personally, but it is even harder when trying to deal with people you don't know who all react differently.
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