11 months ago
jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu
"No quote-post" flag proposed for Mastodon could endanger federation with all instances of many non-Mastodon projects; CW: long (over 2,100 characters), Fediverse meta, non-Mastodon Fediverse meta, quote-post/quote-boost/quote-tweet/quote-toot meta, actual quote-post/quote-boost/quote-tweet/quote-toot
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11 months ago
scott@loves.tech
@Jupiter Rowland I think that is how the fediverse will grow. People will be invited to a place, and then they will learn about the fediverse afterwards.

In fact, that is my strategy for attracting people to Hubzilla. Build content and community websites that attract users, and once they are a member of the community, they start learning about the fediverse. They came for the content, stayed for the local community, and then reached out to the fediverse.

I see this as a natural progression, regardless of how they are introduced to the fediverse.
11 months ago
jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu
@Scott M. Stolz The major downside of letting people discover first decentralisation and then the greater Fediverse is that they get too used to their first impression of wherever in the Fediverse they land, they adjust their action to this first impression, and they may end up deeply disturbed when they find out what the Fediverse really is.

I've seen it all the time during the second wave of Twitter-to-Mastodon migration.

After spending one to three months on mastodon.social or wherever they've been railroaded, new Mastodon users discover that Mastodon is decentralised, like many big and little Twitters that are separate but connected to each other.

All of a sudden, Mastodon becomes very complicated. But they don't mind much. After all, it's working for them.

After spending three to six months on Mastodon, they discover that the Fediverse is, in fact, not only their beloved and oh-so-cosy Mastodon. They usually find it out the hard way when they come across the first post or comment from something that's very much not Mastodon, and that does totally weird things that they thought are impossible on Mastodon.

For not exactly few, this is too much. It's like an intruder in their beloved new home. They got used to the Fediverse only being Mastodon and Mastodon only being connected to more Mastodon and nothing else that they find this discovery deeply disturbing.

I think there have been dozens of Mastodon newbies who started following me because they needed Twitter-style background noise in their timeline, and who blocked me without unfollowing me when my freaky, so much non-Mastodon-like posts started tainting their timeline.
11 months ago
scott@loves.tech
@Jupiter Rowland
The major downside of letting people discover first decentralisation and then the greater Fediverse is that they get too used to their first impression of wherever in the Fediverse they land, they adjust their action to this first impression, and they may end up deeply disturbed when they find out what the Fediverse really is.

But until the fediverse gets adopted into society's consciousness (similar to how the "internet" is a concept most people have heard of), I think that most people who join the fediverse will have to learn as they go along. It may not be the best way, but that is how I see it playing out.
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